Atkins Diet Misconceptions: Simply water weight loss?

Posted by admin on March 6th, 2010 and filed under weight loss dieting | 25 Comments »

In thіѕ video οf thе Atkins Diet Misconceptions series, I deal wіth thе myth thаt Atkineers simply lose water weight. Tο ѕοmе, thе Atkins Diet іѕ simply a trip tο thе sauna nothing more οr less. (http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/14/Losing_(Water)_Weight.htm)
Aѕ wіth аnу οthеr “Hυgе Lie,” іt οf coruse ѕtаrtѕ wіth thе truth аnd departs rapidly frοm іt.
* http://www.mayoclinic.com/shape/low-carb-diet/NU00279
* Composition οf weight lost during small-term weight reduction. Metabolic responses οf obese subjects tο starvation аnd low-calorie ketogenic аnd nonketogenic diets. J. Clin. Invest. M U Yang, et al.

During thе first two weeks οf thе Atkins Diet Induction, thе body consumes thе remaining stored glucose (glycogen) іn thе muscles. Thіѕ typically causes thе Induction flu symptoms. Bυt аftеr thаt cycle οf time, thе low carb, high ѕtουt diet іѕ responsible fοr superior weight loss οf ѕtουt mass аnd superior prevention οf muscle loss thаn аnу οthеr diet. I hаνе documented іn former videos thе studies thаt hаνе proven thеѕе facts. Here іѕ јυѕt one article (Very-low-carbohydrate diets аnd preservation οf muscle mass, Nutrition & Metabolism 2006, http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/mаkе рlеаѕеd/3/1/9 )

Thеrе іѕ nο way mу 211 weight loss wаѕ simply 25.3 gallons οf water weight loss. Mу Body Stουt percent dropped 35 percent over thе course, аnd mу bench press amount increased 50 pounds. Thаt іѕ nοt simply water leaving thе body.

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25 Responses

  1. bowulf Says:

    “when on Atkins, if …
    “when on Atkins, if we were to really abstain from any form of carb… gluconeogenesis will be unremitting.”

    I am frightened your understanding of the Diet is extremely faulty as there is no phase of the diet where you eat ZERO carbs. Why the body would prefer glucose from protein as opposed to a dense energy source in fatty acids has never been proved in any study.

    So I would urge you to really study what the diet is and is not as a small knowledge just makes you look foolish.

  2. bowulf Says:

    As for …
    As for atherosclerosis argument, there are multiple low carb studies that show dramatic decrease plaque formations on ketogenic studies.

    By my personal anecdotal evidence, my HDL went up over 20 points and my LDL dropped 50 points to bring my total down to 153 all the while eating loads of saturated fats.

  3. bowulf Says:

    “we have to consume …
    “we have to consume enough stout for blood glucose. this is where Atkins can be terrible for you” This is again where your reasoning break down. As there are countless studies that demonstrates Atkins Diet decreases LDL cholesterol while increasing the HDL cholesterol. Thereby the whole premise of stout avoidance is a faulty one. Check out my cholesterol video for all the links to relevant studies.

    If you need one of the top of my head, check out the LC, LF, and Mediterranean Diet Israeli study.

  4. bowulf Says:

    You are partially …
    You are partially right, but the assumption that stout reserves would not be sufficient or that muscle mass would be consumed at all when there is any non-essential stout left on the body is faulty.

    There is no need to make the carbs as the ATP molecules made by the breakdown on the Fatty Acids is sufficient to fuel the energy needs. What essential carbs do you believe the body needs in excess of the 20g per day?

  5. FS11111 Says:

    (5th)

    – …
    (5th)

    – monounsaturated stout/ polyunsaturated stout seems to – LDL levels, but are still highly calorific. additionally, saturated fatty acids are more harmful than dietary cholesterol as we can only absorb about 1g in a meal, which is about the same amount in the bile we secrete into our duodenum.

    low HDL and high LDL levels in blood are harmful because it will lead to atherosclerosis, and hardening of the arteries.

  6. FS11111 Says:

    (4th)

    our musle …
    (4th)

    our musle protein will be broken down into amino acids, and reasonably a number of amino acid types (not all) are glucogenic, able to make glucose.

    so….. in order to prevent protein mass loss, we have to consume enough stout for blood glucose. this is where Atkins can be terrible for you. yes, you’ll lose weight. but then your shape will be compromised by the amount of stout you take in. saturated stout will + blood LDL levels. Trans stout will + blood LDL levels and – HDL levels. unsaturated stout–

  7. FS11111 Says:

    (3rd)

    releasing …
    (3rd)

    releasing more energy when oxidised. that is why energy-wise, fats are better when oxidised. BUT… one of the products of oxidation of fatty acids are acetyl CoA, which will go into Krebs’ cycle to release its majority of energy. one of the intermediates of Kreb’s cycle will be used to make glucose, so in the end, there wont be enough intermediates to do both jobs.

    the next type of molecule to be used will be protein from our muscle mass (this is if stout supply is exhausted).

  8. FS11111 Says:

    (2nd)

    1st type …
    (2nd)

    1st type of molecule that is used will be our stout reserves (triacylglycerol). it will be broken down in adipose and the glycerol molecule will be used directly to make glucose. for the fatty acid chains, ONLY odd-chained fatty acids (which are uncommon) can be used to make a small glucose. The reason why these tiny amounts of carbons can rate up to the carbs’ to some extent in terms of energy is because fatty acids’ weight-energy ratio is much better than carbs, and they are more reduced

  9. FS11111 Says:

    Atkins diet works …
    Atkins diet works because of the types of food we consume.

    carbs are the main fuel supply, and in <24hrs fasting liver glycogen will be broken down to maintain blood glucose levels. after about 24 hrs, liver supply of glycogen will be exhausted, and in order to maintain blood glucose levels, it will have to perform gluconeogenesis, synthesis of glucose from non-carbs.

    when on Atkins, if we were to really abstain from any form of carb… gluconeogenesis will be unremitting..

  10. bowulf Says:

    Very right…
    Very right…

  11. bowulf Says:

    Certainly the thought …
    Certainly the thought that we can accurately without a doubt calculate exact weight loss via Caloric formula is.

  12. mokugin81 Says:

    calorie r just a …
    calorie r just a myth!!

  13. mokugin81 Says:

    my friend Zoe …
    my friend Zoe Harcombe clarifies very well that when it comes to weight loss weight is weight!! water stout they both have to be dropped!! argueing about water lost over weight lost is a bit silly!! They both gotta go!!! my friend did liposuction years ago! she got much slimmer but still had water retantion!! plus she had pain on her body for long time!!!

  14. SpartanLife1821 Says:

    bowulf you are …
    bowulf you are right, people do not have to have flour refined sugars or starches, it is more of a want or luxury depending on the self. But i do agree going to too low calorie has alot of unenthusiastic shape benefits. But you are knowledgable on the atkins diet and i always had a question about it. When you take in stout as a primary energy source, how does the body know whitch stout to burn first, the stout coming in, or the stout already in the body. I thank you again for your time I have learned alot

  15. bowulf Says:

    As I do, others’ …
    As I do, others’ ability to lose focusing simply on part control or going Low Calorie. If it works for someone else — whatever that is ultimately makes them *healthy & fit” (not just thin) is fine by me and I’ll cheer them on.

  16. bowulf Says:

    The second …
    The second difference I reckon I can say is that we differ on where that nutrition should come from. I have no question to have my blood glucose to be on the roller coaster any more, and consequently I believe keeping more even keel with fueling the body with stout makes more sense.

    Ultimately if you are doing grueling workouts, your body will get more fit, but you can’t necessarily work your way to thinness. Gary Taubes has pointed hat out in a number of studies.

  17. bowulf Says:

    I reckon the real …
    I reckon the real point of contention between our understandings is one what is vital to track to lose weight. I am saying you can pretty much ignore Calories with the assumption that ketogenic diets naturally reduce hunger, reduce appetite, and also encourage the body to burn stored body stout while also preventing the metabolic pathways to store body stout. The only reason I ever cared about Calories was to ensure I got enough.

  18. bowulf Says:

    My question is …
    My question is who’s definition of balanced do you follow? USDA can’t make up their mind what their recommendation are. I just personally do not believe there is a necessity for people to HAVE to eat refined sugars, flours, or starches. Most people would see large gains in shape benefits if they would drop that out.

  19. SpartanLife1821 Says:

    But i do respect …
    But i do respect the atkins system and it i recognize it has helped people

  20. SpartanLife1821 Says:

    But some resistance …
    But some resistance training will increase thier metabolism and ability to store glycogen. I am talking to the general public as a whole. Personaly i am just over the whole “diet” thing and just moniter my calories and activity level. But everyone IS different, my opinion is to try a balanced diet first with a caloric deficit, and then if thats not working for them try a diet system.

  21. SpartanLife1821 Says:

    i used to be 230 at …
    i used to be 230 at 5’10 and started untreated bodybuilding 4 years ago and im now at 5’10 185 at 9 percent body stout. I know glycogen stores carry carbohydrates so the more muscle a self may buy, the more glycogen (carbs for fuel) they can eat this storing it in thier muscles and not in thier stout. So i found as the years go by i had the ability to eat more carbs and food overal because of the higher glycogen stores in my muscles. I be with you not everyone wants to be a bodybuilder

  22. SpartanLife1821 Says:

    I do agree with …
    I do agree with what you did say, but a self can have sausage cheescake and fried chicken even chocolate if they thing those calories in thier daily total. even a unhealthy diet of quick food will produce weight loss if your taking in less calories. I remember in highschool I was very thin on a diet of just mcdonalds and bugerking. I was about 130-135 at 5’8 But i walked 1 hour to school and back and was very committed. But I reckon somones diet atkins whatever may be dependant on thier workouts.

  23. bowulf Says:

    Yep get all those …
    Yep get all those in my diet too – I reckon the question is the amount. My diet is full of grains in flax, fruits in strawberries after Induction, and veggies in a full daily part on each single phase of the diet.

  24. bowulf Says:

    I never said …
    I never said everyone has to follow low carb to lose weight, but it certainly worked out best for me. I have been able to fuel my full and half marathons on no more than 30-45g of Carbs per day as well as my high intensity workouts and sprints like 5k or playing basketball.

    As for going through life without bread or pasta, those are part of the diet, but restricted. To me going through life without sausage, cheesecake, or fried chicken would be a huge sacrifice. To each their own…

  25. bowulf Says:

    Check out my …
    Check out my Calories In – Calories Out fallacy video for my thoughts on the simple burn more calories than you take in argument. The small answer is in many studies Low Carb followers lost more weight eating more Calories than Low Stout followers. If you are cutting Cals and maintaining the same other macronutrient amounts, you are doing it incorrect. That is why Atkins is a high stout diet.

    As for Carbs being the preferred source, it may be the simplest or cheapest source. That doesn’t mean best.

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